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G-Man
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posticon   Posted: 2010-07-22 15:42

My proposal is to ban Simon from the forum, muhahahaha



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posticon   Posted: 2010-07-22 16:46

On 2010-07-22 15:17 , PaulS Wrote:

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On 2010-07-22 14:02 , PaulS Wrote:

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On 2010-07-22 13:54 , Snakeyes Wrote:

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I would prefer to have relegation as I said before it will freshen the league up. It may be the case that we relegate 1 team and bring up 5 teams. Maybe the committee need to make this final decision on this proposal of promotion/relegation.


'Freshening up' the league might be what you prefer, but it may not be the fairest way to do things.


These are proposals/suggestions Paul, not a rule!



Chill out, bro. Just trying to offer counter suggestions so that folks don't blindly vote for proposals at the the AGM without thinking them through first.


That's what usually happens at the AGM, people put their hands up to anything! ha ha


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posticon   Posted: 2010-07-22 16:46

On 2010-07-22 15:42 , G-Man Wrote:

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My proposal is to ban Simon from the forum, muhahahaha




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posticon   Posted: 2010-07-22 16:50

On 2010-07-22 16:46 , Snakeyes Wrote:

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On 2010-07-22 15:17 , PaulS Wrote:

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On 2010-07-22 15:09 , Snakeyes Wrote:

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On 2010-07-22 14:02 , PaulS Wrote:

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On 2010-07-22 13:54 , Snakeyes Wrote:

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I would prefer to have relegation as I said before it will freshen the league up. It may be the case that we relegate 1 team and bring up 5 teams. Maybe the committee need to make this final decision on this proposal of promotion/relegation.


'Freshening up' the league might be what you prefer, but it may not be the fairest way to do things.


These are proposals/suggestions Paul, not a rule!



Chill out, bro. Just trying to offer counter suggestions so that folks don't blindly vote for proposals at the the AGM without thinking them through first.


That's what usually happens at the AGM, people put their hands up to anything! ha ha



Exactly. Is that not how we ended up with an 8 team 1st division in the 1st place?



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posticon   Posted: 2010-07-22 18:28

On 2010-07-22 12:06 , martinc Wrote:

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Ill pop the official proposals on here as i receive them for folk to see them in advance of the AGM - dont put any suggested proposals etc on this thread, just use this one for discussing the merit or thoughts on propsals received

From Allan Irvine - to add to the league rules

The proposal is that on Cup Final nights only, The Trophy for that particular competition be made available to the winners on evening of the final match to prevent winning team having to wait until Presentation Night, some months later in some cases to receive the trophy. Trophy still to be returned in time for engraving and re-presented at Presentation Night along with any prize money as usual.



Not sure this is great, more trophies will end up lost out in town and you are wanting people to attend the presentation night, if you hand out the trophy in advance folk might bother coming along to collect the wee plastic ones.


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posticon   Posted: 2010-07-22 18:29

On 2010-07-22 12:58 , martinc Wrote:

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Proposal from Simon Mitchell regarding league reconstruction


My proposal is that the 1st division is to have 12 teams competing. So the other divisions will be split with the rest of the teams competing in the ADPL.



I also propose that 2 teams are relegated from Division 1 and 6 teams are promoted from Division 2A. This is to freshen up the league with new teams.


Glad thats been proposed.


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posticon   Posted: 2010-07-22 18:32

On 2010-07-22 15:00 , martinc Wrote:

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Proposal from Titch

Increase Entry fee for all singles comps by £1, and for doubles, 3 man etc by £1 per head


Sounds good. Singles comps prize money has basically halfed since I was on the committee. You need to encourage the top players to stay in the league and play every week. Some seem to be losing interest and that is not good as folk need something to aspire to or the game dies.

I think the rankings should have more importance as this would encourage people to play in all the events. Whether this is by providing better money or by seeding more events like the aberdeen singles and divisional singles based on the rankings.


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posticon   Posted: 2010-07-22 18:33

On 2010-07-22 15:05 , martinc Wrote:

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Proposal from Titch - each competition voted on its own seperate proposal

For early rounds before finals day of the Singles, Doubles and Scotch double to be best of 7 instead of best of 5 and increasing final days to best of 9 - 11 and 13 for later rounds in line with Abdn Masters format.


Again sounds good as long as folk agree to arrange matches between themeslves and not all play on the same night as there could be some late nights. Finals I guess wouldnt be a problem although if you win you could end up being there til about 10pm.


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posticon   Posted: 2010-07-23 07:33

On 2010-07-22 18:28 , ChrisL Wrote:

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On 2010-07-22 12:06 , martinc Wrote:

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Ill pop the official proposals on here as i receive them for folk to see them in advance of the AGM - dont put any suggested proposals etc on this thread, just use this one for discussing the merit or thoughts on propsals received

From Allan Irvine - to add to the league rules

The proposal is that on Cup Final nights only, The Trophy for that particular competition be made available to the winners on evening of the final match to prevent winning team having to wait until Presentation Night, some months later in some cases to receive the trophy. Trophy still to be returned in time for engraving and re-presented at Presentation Night along with any prize money as usual.



Not sure this is great, more trophies will end up lost out in town and you are wanting people to attend the presentation night, if you hand out the trophy in advance folk might bother coming along to collect the wee plastic ones.



trophy still needs returned for engraving to collect at presentation night, and their will be the prize money also to collect.

As for losing them in town etc, their will be a wee proposal from myself to make sure the teams/individuals that win the perpetuals return them in a similar condition they received them




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posticon   Posted: 2010-07-23 08:17

Proposal from myself

Teams and individuals winners of perpetual trophies are responsible for returning them the following season in a similar condition they received them. Any trophies not returned or retunred in a state of disrepair the inividuals or teams will be responsible for the replacement costs of the trophy and engravings. Teams and individuals will be debt suspended from the league if the fail to pay the replacement costs of the trophies at the committees request.

in layman terms, looks after the shiny new trophies we bought or you pay for them to be replaced.



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posticon   Posted: 2010-07-23 08:30

proposal from myself - minor alteration to the make up of thee committee, and more defined roles, to help with any further turnover of members on the committee.

Committee shall be made up of

The ADPL shall be made up of the follwoing management - the roles defined below are not exhaustive but include -

Chairman - chairs all meettings, second signatory on the ADPL bank account, help all members of the committee through the season when requested and ensure the profficient running of the ADPL

League Secretary - sets out the fixture list for the season, produces the POTY standings at christmas and at the end of the season. Helps the Match Secretary with the weekly running of the league. Main point of contact for the league

Match Secretary - responsible for the updating on a weekly basis the league republic site, conducting all competition draws in conjuction with the league secretary. Point of contact for teams and individuals for any competition related issues

Press Officer - responsible for weekly information to be sent to the Evening Express, and to produce tournament reports on the finals day throughout the season to put on the website and in the Evening Express.

Events Organiser - responsible for organising the end of season presentation, and other events throughout the season.

Non Exec Memeber - Treasurer - handles all monies taken in and paid out by the ADPL and is the signatory on the bank account

Non - Exec Memeber Website Manager - looks after the running of the ADPL website



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posticon   Posted: 2010-07-23 08:34

At the moment on the committee we have or had

Chairman - was Furry - need someone to put themselves forward for this, ideally an experienced and well respected player in the ADPL. First main job will be to sort out the bank account and change the signatories, as it not the most convienant that Mucker is still the signatory, and not fair hassling him to get various cheques signed through the season.

League Secretary - was myself this season

Match Secretary - was Furry - i will be putting forward Allan Irvine for this role

Press Officer - new position - John Hay looked after this in the second half of the season, think he is still interested for next season

Events Organiser - Proudy sorted the presentation out, and he has an idea or two for next season

Treasurer - Colin

Website - Chris

so basically at the AGM the most improtant role that needs filled is the Chairman, step forward someone :)



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posticon   Posted: 2010-07-23 08:48

On 2010-07-22 15:28 , PaulS Wrote:

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On 2010-07-22 15:00 , martinc Wrote:

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Proposal from Titch

Increase Entry fee for all singles comps by £1, and for doubles, 3 man etc by £1 per head


Agree with this one, but for info, can you remind me what the current entry fees are?


Paul at the moment it is

Masters £8
Abdn Singles £3
Div 1 Singles £4
Div 2 Singles £3
Doubles - £6
3 Man - £12
Pairs - £6
Scotch - £6

not a propsoal but something i would like to see happening is at each finals day that a football scratch card is sold at Rileys, make it £2 per square, this will add £40 to each event - at each final there is normally 32 players, should be able to shift 40 squares




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posticon   Posted: 2010-07-23 12:05

Another Proposal from myself

Introduction of 3 new cups to the league, namely Division 1, 2a and 2b Challenge Cups, to involve teams from each division that were not involved in any other finals throughout the season. Competition to played to a winner on a seperate Saturday fror each division at Rileys.


Sponsorship of these cups already agreed with Rileys to cover the prize money, if the proposal is accepted



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posticon   Posted: 2010-07-23 12:52

On 2010-07-23 12:05 , martinc Wrote:

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Another Proposal from myself

Introduction of 3 new cups to the league, namely Division 1, 2a and 2b Challenge Cups, to involve teams from each division that were not involved in any other finals throughout the season. Competition to played to a winner on a seperate Saturday fror each division at Rileys.


Sponsorship of these cups already agreed with Rileys to cover the prize money, if the proposal is accepted


Might be tough to find free Saturdays for this one!



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posticon   Posted: 2010-07-23 13:07

Perhaps changing it to a 5 man team might make it more feasible??



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posticon   Posted: 2010-07-23 13:34

any format will do, just a way of trying to keep teams interested through to the end of the season. should be able to fit a few Saturday in between last cup final of the season and the presentation night i'd hope



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posticon   Posted: 2010-07-23 14:40

Seeded? So positions in league count?



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posticon   Posted: 2010-07-23 14:42

open draw, seeded either, probably best with seeded tbh



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posticon   Posted: 2010-07-26 08:22

Press Officer - new position - John Hay looked after this in the second half of the season, think he is still interested for next season


don't recall seeing any articles???



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