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thebigdog Just can't stay away Joined: 28-Jan-2010 Posts: 74	Posted: 2010-02-08 19:51 I fancy a debate so lets get it started, Profile PM Quote
paulk Quite a regular Joined: 27-Jan-2009 Posts: 48 From: stonehaven	Posted: 2010-02-08 20:23 Debates are great mate but i prefer them with people who i respect or at least accept their opinions you however fall into neither of these categories!!! Profile PM Quote
furrybeast Home away from home Joined: 11-Oct-2004 Posts: 4580 From: Aberdeen	Posted: 2010-02-09 11:13 Have a good look chaps. This is where we'll all be next year http://www.scottishpool.com/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=11&thread_id=2482&pid=58853#post_58853 Now THESE are proper Inteleague events. One for the A teams, and one for the B teams. 1000 players total. BRING IT ON! [ This message was edited by: furrybeast on 2010-02-09 11:14 ] Profile PM Quote
derek Home away from home Joined: 13-Jan-2010 Posts: 590	Posted: 2010-02-09 11:37 On 2010-02-09 11:13 , furrybeast Wrote: !!! QUOTE !!! Have a good look chaps. This is where we'll all be next year http://www.scottishpool.com/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=11&thread_id=2482&pid=58853#post_58853 Now THESE are proper Inteleague events. One for the A teams, and one for the B teams. 1000 players total. BRING IT ON! WOW !!!! Can't wait haven't been to Butlins since I was four. Profile PM Quote
furrybeast Home away from home Joined: 11-Oct-2004 Posts: 4580 From: Aberdeen	Posted: 2010-02-09 11:56 Was it not still an army camp then? Good memories though - first snog, learned to swim, candy floss and fresh peaches, prawns and buckies in wee tubs, shitting yourself on the chairlift for the first time, donkey derby's, knobbly knees, roller skating til your feet bled, "are we there yet!" sigh! now those WERE the days Profile PM Quote
Blue_Jam Home away from home Joined: 12-Jun-2007 Posts: 151	Posted: 2010-02-09 12:10 Wow, around 1,000 players for the weekend, pretty impressive. I've just come back from a weekend away so catching up on the posts and seems like a lot of contradictions cropping up; Don't want to regularly play against the best players in Scotland but do want to play against the best players in England once a year. Don't want to play Blackball cause it's all just about attacking/potting but think a 40 minute tactical frame in the later stages of a big money BB event is also a bad thing? If the decision of ADPL affiliation if being made in the interests of the majority of players then SPA is the best choice. More of our players will get to compete with the best in Scotland on a regular basis in the IM tour (the real jewel in the crown) and we could send Profile PM Quote
Blue_Jam Home away from home Joined: 12-Jun-2007 Posts: 151	Posted: 2010-02-09 12:12 around 30 players down to two county events every year that put the interleague to shame. Seems very counter-productive to base the decision in the interests of the very few who are willing and able to go to the WR International events. I'd like to know why players reps at SPA meetings have voted in the past to keep the rule choice in place, anyone asked this question or know the answer? Profile PM Quote
Snakeyes Home away from home Joined: 06-Oct-2004 Posts: 514 From: Aberdeen	Posted: 2010-02-09 12:20 On 2010-02-09 12:10 , Blue_Jam Wrote: !!! QUOTE !!! More of our players will get to compete with the best in Scotland on a regular basis in the IM tour (the real jewel in the crown) and we could send I have read on the SPA site that its actually the Corner Pocket Tour that has all the creme de la creme playing and not the IM!! ----------------- Your mouth's writing cheques your talent can't cash! Profile PM Quote
Blue_Jam Home away from home Joined: 12-Jun-2007 Posts: 151	Posted: 2010-02-09 12:47 The IM is the official ranking system and has hundreds of players with local qualifying to get to the finals so it's the form players that make it. Corner Pocket doesn't have qualifiers and is open to anyone willing to pay to enter and a much smaller field. Having said that it's choc full of brilliant players (no big names miss out to an off day qualifying) so it would be hard to call either way Profile PM Quote
cab Just can't stay away Joined: 14-Jan-2010 Posts: 113 From: United Kingdom	Posted: 2010-02-09 13:16 Quote: Blue_Jam If the decision of ADPL affiliation if being made in the interests of the majority of players then SPA is the best choice. More of our players will get to compete with the best in Scotland on a regular basis in the IM tour (the real jewel in the crown) and we could send around 30 players down to two county events every year that put the interleague to shame. Seems very counter-productive to base the decision in the interests of the very few who are willing and able to go to the WR International events. +++++ These are not the County events, they are the Super League events 11 person teams. The Counties (15 person teams ) will be later in the year (much bigger event). There will be an A and B event, and as long as you enter ONE A team, you can enter more than one B team. See thread on SPA, Dunfermline have One at CT and Five at PB. So you will be able to field a lot more than 30 players. Profile PM Quote
Snakeyes Home away from home Joined: 06-Oct-2004 Posts: 514 From: Aberdeen	Posted: 2010-02-09 17:03 Ssssshhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!! It's awful quiet for a change!! lol Profile PM Quote
Macleod00 Home away from home Joined: 08-Oct-2008 Posts: 297 From: The North	Posted: 2010-02-09 19:28 !!! QUOTE !!! I have read on the SPA site that its actually the Corner Pocket Tour that has all the creme de la creme playing and not the IM!! Modest bugger... Profile PM Quote
Macleod00 Home away from home Joined: 08-Oct-2008 Posts: 297 From: The North	Posted: 2010-02-09 19:42 !!! QUOTE !!! Don't want to regularly play against the best players in Scotland but do want to play against the best players in England once a year. Andy, most players up here do want to play against the best players in Scotland regularly, of course they do. Over time, I expect that they will - once the SPA ditches the ironically named CHOICE policy. Also, its not the best players in England its the best (both amateur and professional) players in the world. There is a difference. !!! QUOTE !!! Don't want to play Blackball cause it's all just about attacking/potting but think a 40 minute tactical frame in the later stages of a big money BB event is also a bad thing? I think the part that folk have found bizarre, rather than the frames duration, was the use of the 'soft break'. I found it quite fascinating but can see how some may view it as appalling pool... Profile PM Quote
thebigdog Just can't stay away Joined: 28-Jan-2010 Posts: 74	Posted: 2010-02-11 17:33 Could the adpl not make some sort of deal with the SPA to allow the former sepf players to keep there own international identity to be able to play in the WR champs in blackpool Profile PM Quote
furrybeast Home away from home Joined: 11-Oct-2004 Posts: 4580 From: Aberdeen	Posted: 2010-02-11 17:36 They have already said they are quite happy for our players to still take part in the WEPF worlds. Problem is, they have to qualify for the team which would mean tours or trialling Profile PM Quote
thebigdog Just can't stay away Joined: 28-Jan-2010 Posts: 74	Posted: 2010-02-11 17:47 Could they not play them to BB rules Profile PM Quote
furrybeast Home away from home Joined: 11-Oct-2004 Posts: 4580 From: Aberdeen	Posted: 2010-02-11 17:53 Not beyond the realms of possibility I suppose Profile PM Quote
Macleod00 Home away from home Joined: 08-Oct-2008 Posts: 297 From: The North	Posted: 2010-02-11 18:00 !!! QUOTE !!! They have already said they are quite happy for our players to still take part in the WEPF worlds. Problem is, they have to qualify for the team which would mean tours or trialling Surely the biggest f**k you to George Harwood (on behalf of SPA/Mcinnes) would be for Scotland to start winning WEPF events regularly. The BB game could still be grown in tandem, building on the good work that has already been done in Scotland... Its the majority that rules according to the flying Scotsman... With this (and their choice policy) in mind, do you think that the SPA Membership are bonkers? Profile PM Quote
derek Home away from home Joined: 13-Jan-2010 Posts: 590	Posted: 2010-02-11 19:59 On 2010-02-11 18:00 , Macleod00 Wrote: !!! QUOTE !!! !!! QUOTE !!! They have already said they are quite happy for our players to still take part in the WEPF worlds. Problem is, they have to qualify for the team which would mean tours or trialling Surely the biggest f**k you to George Harwood (on behalf of SPA/Mcinnes) would be for Scotland to start winning WEPF events regularly. The BB game could still be grown in tandem, building on the good work that has already been done in Scotland... Its the majority that rules according to the flying Scotsman... With this (and their choice policy) in mind, do you think that the SPA Membership are bonkers? Adam, George Harwood is totally committed to the SEPF and Scotland. He has taken his time to come up and chair the AGM and I am pretty sure if he hadn't there would be even more hassle and the federation would have probably folded. I know from my own opinion I would not of gone back on the commitee had it not been for George Hawood's involvement.Over the past 12-15 years Scotland have been majorly represented at all events. And until maybe laterly even now the Majority of players were from the league that is now possibly going to shaft them the ADPL. Not very fair in my opinion and many others. Profile PM Quote
Macleod00 Home away from home Joined: 08-Oct-2008 Posts: 297 From: The North	Posted: 2010-02-11 20:31 !!! QUOTE !!! Adam, George Harwood is totally committed to the SEPF and Scotland. He has taken his time to come up and chair the AGM and I am pretty sure if he hadn't there would be even more hassle and the federation would have probably folded. I know from my own opinion I would not of gone back on the commitee had it not been for George Hawood's involvement.Over the past 12-15 years Scotland have been majorly represented at all events. And until maybe laterly even now the Majority of players were from the league that is now possibly going to shaft them the ADPL. Not very fair in my opinion and many others. Rather than advocating SPA affiliation, my post was questioning the strategy of SPA to date. It seems to me, from reading a good deal of Mcinness' posts, that he/the SPA are hiding behind statements like 'we differ over the rules' etc. It seems clear that he/they have a problem with George Harwood and I wish this would be admitted! If (as Furry said above) it has been ok'd for current SEPF players to still qualify for WEPF events if the ADPL affiliates then this exposes the idiocy of their policies to date. In my view, of course... Profile PM Quote